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		<title>By: Jeff Pijanowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Pijanowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all:

I did an audit of my website (News Cycle) versus Erica&#039;s (Paper Cut) this morning. I&#039;ve added about five layoff events that I did not have. I&#039;ve also added an editor&#039;s note (see the bottom of this post) to help explain the discrepency.

The bottomline is that we are not in competition with each other. Sometimes I have items she does not have and will send her a note, and there our times I will check her site for items I do not have. (OK, if it were a competition she would beat me the vast majority of times!).  We have collaborated on various layoff numbers and will continue to do so.

But the goal is the same; we are both trying to publicize the fate of our colleagues.

Best Regards

Jeff

EDITOR&#039;S NOTE: There have been questions concerning the discrepency between our layoff numbers with Paper Cuts. Some large layoffs were counted in News Cycle in late 2009 when they were announced, most notably with USA Today, Gannett&#039;s Journal News in upstate New York, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Fresno Bee and the Oregonian. These total almost 400 people in News Cycle&#039;s 2009 number, but appear in Erica&#039;s count in 2010, when people were actually laid off. In addition, the expected layoffs of more than 600 people from the Honolulu papers have not been added to the News Cycle 2010 count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all:</p>
<p>I did an audit of my website (News Cycle) versus Erica&#8217;s (Paper Cut) this morning. I&#8217;ve added about five layoff events that I did not have. I&#8217;ve also added an editor&#8217;s note (see the bottom of this post) to help explain the discrepency.</p>
<p>The bottomline is that we are not in competition with each other. Sometimes I have items she does not have and will send her a note, and there our times I will check her site for items I do not have. (OK, if it were a competition she would beat me the vast majority of times!).  We have collaborated on various layoff numbers and will continue to do so.</p>
<p>But the goal is the same; we are both trying to publicize the fate of our colleagues.</p>
<p>Best Regards</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
<p>EDITOR&#8217;S NOTE: There have been questions concerning the discrepency between our layoff numbers with Paper Cuts. Some large layoffs were counted in News Cycle in late 2009 when they were announced, most notably with USA Today, Gannett&#8217;s Journal News in upstate New York, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Fresno Bee and the Oregonian. These total almost 400 people in News Cycle&#8217;s 2009 number, but appear in Erica&#8217;s count in 2010, when people were actually laid off. In addition, the expected layoffs of more than 600 people from the Honolulu papers have not been added to the News Cycle 2010 count.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TV exchange was stunning. As in, a cow being stunned just before being killed. If I were the manager of these 2 guys, I would discipline them both. Severely.

Now, onto newspapers and their impending doom.
Ask yourself: What would happen to existing newspaper classified ad revenue if Craigslist improved just a smidgen?
Now, ask yourself: How much would it cost Craig to make that improvement?
It is only a matter of time. Someday Craigslist will get better and when it does. Boom.

Reporters always love to put anecdotal evidence into a story. So, here is mine.
In 2008 we sold our 1998 BMW Z3.
I placed an ad on Craiglist for $zero and one on Cars.com for $55. Nothing in the Denver Post (I am old, but not retarded.).
I got 4 phone calls immediately. All from people over the age of 45.
Four people called because they saw the ad on Craigslist and one also saw it at Cars.com.
I sold the car within 3 days of placing the ad.
I was shocked. I had no idea that people over 30 looked at Craigslist. Now, I know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TV exchange was stunning. As in, a cow being stunned just before being killed. If I were the manager of these 2 guys, I would discipline them both. Severely.</p>
<p>Now, onto newspapers and their impending doom.<br />
Ask yourself: What would happen to existing newspaper classified ad revenue if Craigslist improved just a smidgen?<br />
Now, ask yourself: How much would it cost Craig to make that improvement?<br />
It is only a matter of time. Someday Craigslist will get better and when it does. Boom.</p>
<p>Reporters always love to put anecdotal evidence into a story. So, here is mine.<br />
In 2008 we sold our 1998 BMW Z3.<br />
I placed an ad on Craiglist for $zero and one on Cars.com for $55. Nothing in the Denver Post (I am old, but not retarded.).<br />
I got 4 phone calls immediately. All from people over the age of 45.<br />
Four people called because they saw the ad on Craigslist and one also saw it at Cars.com.<br />
I sold the car within 3 days of placing the ad.<br />
I was shocked. I had no idea that people over 30 looked at Craigslist. Now, I know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Misshaping Young Minds &#171; Technology &#38; Media</title>
		<link>http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/misshaping-young-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>Misshaping Young Minds &#171; Technology &#38; Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] March 24, 2010 by rac8900      [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Gillin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gillin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, and we&#039;ve noted that fact several times in the past. Yet the fact remains that the average daily US newspaper reader is between 55 and 57 years old. I  don&#039;t buy your &quot;bad journalism&quot; theory. It&#039;s hard to argue that the journalism at college newspapers is superior to that of major metro dailies. More likely it&#039;s the hyper-local nature of college journals combined with other factors, like subscription costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, and we&#8217;ve noted that fact several times in the past. Yet the fact remains that the average daily US newspaper reader is between 55 and 57 years old. I  don&#8217;t buy your &#8220;bad journalism&#8221; theory. It&#8217;s hard to argue that the journalism at college newspapers is superior to that of major metro dailies. More likely it&#8217;s the hyper-local nature of college journals combined with other factors, like subscription costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
		<link>http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/misshaping-young-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 05:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try reading up on some real statistics. If you look at the college explorer put out by alloy media and marketing, you will find that college students are reading their college newspapers in massive numbers. It isn&#039;t print that the college students don&#039;t like... it is bad journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try reading up on some real statistics. If you look at the college explorer put out by alloy media and marketing, you will find that college students are reading their college newspapers in massive numbers. It isn&#8217;t print that the college students don&#8217;t like&#8230; it is bad journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: msbpodcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>msbpodcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m not typical, but I haven&#039;t read an actual paper in &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;years&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.

I have access to more news by going on-line than I could find by picking up one or even two papers here in NYC.

On top of Google news, I read Al Jazeerah, the BBC, the CBC, Huffington Post, the NY Daily News, the NY Times, Digg, Slashdot, this blog and the magazine death pool.

Michael Giusti is full of it if he thinks I could get all of the news from his rag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m not typical, but I haven&#8217;t read an actual paper in <b><i>years</i></b>.</p>
<p>I have access to more news by going on-line than I could find by picking up one or even two papers here in NYC.</p>
<p>On top of Google news, I read Al Jazeerah, the BBC, the CBC, Huffington Post, the NY Daily News, the NY Times, Digg, Slashdot, this blog and the magazine death pool.</p>
<p>Michael Giusti is full of it if he thinks I could get all of the news from his rag.</p>
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