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Comments on: NY Times Swallows Paywall Pill https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/ Chronicling the Decline of Newspapers and the Rebirth of Journalism Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.0.5 By: AOL Seeks Leadership in Huffington | Newspaper Death Watch https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-3735 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:33 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-3735 […] been nearly a year since The New York Times announced plans to charge for access to its online content starting in January. Now January has passed and we’re still waiting for what publishers hope […]

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By: dan bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1065 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:12:38 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1065 wrote a song about snailpapers, put it on video on YouTube here, see link at my name

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By: danny bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1060 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:34:42 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1060 snailpapers is the subject of an oped in a major west coast newspaper this week: first time the term wll appear in a print newspaper on the oped page as an oped.

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By: dan e bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:35:09 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1057 BBC – Chris Evans: Afternoon Live From The SofaOh, before I go I would like to say that smoking is bad for you. Yep, you heard it here first. …… My lovely Mum is cooking us dinner tomorrow so i don’t have to mess up my nice tidy kitchen! Bingo, thanks for the news. I would never buy the Snail paper but somehow reading it on line doesn’t feel as bad! …

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By: dan e bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1058 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:28:52 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1058 BBC – Chris Evans: Afternoon Live From The Sofa22 Jan 2010
”My lovely Mum is cooking us dinner tomorrow so i don’t have to mess up my nice tidy kitchen! Bingo, thanks for the news. I would never buy the snail paper but somehow reading it on line doesn’t feel as bad! …”

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By: dan e bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1056 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:27:15 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1056 more archived uses by other bloggers: “Snail paper update:” Lost in the fog? Dec 4, 2009 by Dave Emerson in California, who wrote on (12/4/2009, 7:54 AM) ….Forget my ship coming in–I’d just like my “morning” newspaper to arrive while it’s still morning. Preferably before I leave for my first appointment! There still doesn’t seem to be much improvement in the late …
Let’s Fix Los Al! blog

and Curtis Bloes in the Sac City News. Jan. 31, 2010: ”As much as I love the interface, I think small town newspapers are doomed to walk the same path as snail mail. Why pay to send a letter when you can send a message right now for free? Why pay to read about it 7 days later in the paper when you can hear what really happened from your neighbor right now for free? Like the written letter, the newspaper has evolved.
It is now the snailpaper. ‘

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By: dan e bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1059 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:57:59 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1059 Paul, comments offline from top PHD prof says:
“We have aways had news sources with different temporal characteristics. It really didnt start getting real time until broadcasting arrived.
Before that newspapers were quick, magazines slower, news annuals and books about news events much slower.The problem for newspapers today is to accept the fact they no longer have speed on their side and to adjust their content accordingly.”

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By: dan e. bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1061 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:44:13 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1061 by the way, Paul, Mary Susan MacDonald in Toronto did a cute cartoon about snailpapers last year, click on my name here to see it. Cute!

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By: Dan Bloom https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:39:02 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1063 One note about pay walls and free. Rich biz people shell out money for WSJ and other reads like the Economist and in 2011 maybe NYT because they can deduct the subscriptions from their expense accounts as a write off for tax purposes, so they can ”afford” to buy such reading websites. It’s basically a freebie for them as a tax write off. Most of us poor church mice cannot afford it. That’s need to be pointed out. Right?

PS; and thanks for shout out about snailpapers! I hope they never quit us!

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By: msbpodcast https://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ny-times-swallows-paywall-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:26:09 +0000 http://www.newspaperdeathwatch.com/?p=2441#comment-1062 And that will effectively kill the usefulness of the first amendment.

Some information will be behind paywalls and some will not.

Any that is not will find itself the subject of copyright attacks by those who put it behind their paywalls.

If people are charging for it, part of the cost is legal defense.

Of course, if the NY Times is too effective, they will find their online presence will vanish much more quickly than the ten years that it took the nearly moribund, money-losing paper version.

The trick will be the tightrope that must be walked along.

How much do you let people aggregate and how much do you reserve for your paying customers?

Since there are only so many accurate synonyms and the grammatical structure of the language is fixed within linguistic group, how sternly do you defend your words, or how strictly do you insist on proper attribution?

Is it legal for someone who is quoting you to come up with his own conclusion from the same material?

The Supreme Court is about to become linguists, and, just as in France with their “Academie de la Langue Française, Lord have mercy on our memes.

Legalese is about to become the <bLingua Franca over here too…

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